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Raise Emotionally Stronger Children with Conscious Parenting

Raise Emotionally Stronger Children with Conscious Parenting

  • August 11, 2026
Parenting with presence starts with slowing down, noticing what is happening now and listening to your child before responding. Mindful parenting takes practice. Small moments of awareness can help you recognise parenting triggers and make more thoughtful choices. Emotional regulation begins with us. Learning to manage our own feelings helps us guide children through their big emotions. Children need space to express sadness, anger and frustration alongside clear boundaries that keep everyone safe. Conscious parenting invites us to recognise patterns from our childhood and choose how we want to respond within our own families. Meditation and everyday pauses can support parents to manage stress and bring more awareness into family life. Children’s books and shared storytelling can open meaningful conversations about feelings, connection and inner comfort. Repair matters after difficult moments. Taking responsibility and reconnecting shows children that relationships can recover after conflict. You can build a strong parent and child connection while continuing to learn. Presence grows through everyday practice and kindness towards yourself.

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Raise Emotionally Stronger Children Conscious Parenting: Parenting with Presence, Mindfulness and Emotional Connection

What does conscious parenting look like when your child is overwhelmed and your own patience is running thin? In this episode of The Parenting Collective podcast, I explore parenting with presence and how small moments of awareness can help us respond to our children with more understanding, connection and calm.

My guests are parents, authors and experienced meditation teachers who share their passion for helping families understand their inner world. Together, we discuss mindfulness for parents, emotional awareness in children and the everyday practice of staying connected through the beautiful chaos of family life.

If you want to understand your parenting triggers, support your child’s big emotions and build a stronger parent and child relationship, this conversation offers a warm place to begin.

What Is Parenting with Presence?

Parenting with presence means noticing what is happening right now. It invites us to pause, listen and understand our children before rushing to correct their behaviour or worrying about what comes next.

Perhaps your child is crying before school or struggling with a transition. Your mind might already be racing through the morning checklist. Mindful parenting encourages you to return to the moment and ask what your child needs, while also noticing what is happening inside you.

Building Awareness Through Everyday Moments

Presence takes practice. We will get distracted, feel frustrated and sometimes react in ways we wish we hadn’t. Conscious parenting creates opportunities to notice these moments and choose how we want to respond next.

We explore why listening, offering comfort and slowing down can create space for connection. Sometimes the most helpful starting point is putting the next task aside long enough to hear what your child is trying to communicate.

Supporting Big Emotions and Emotional Regulation in Children

Helping children with big emotions begins with making room for their feelings. Sadness, anger and frustration can feel uncomfortable for parents, especially when we grew up hearing that we should stop crying or simply behave.

In this conversation, we discuss emotional validation, parental self-awareness and the role we play in modelling emotional regulation. Children need guidance as they learn to understand their feelings and express them safely.

Connection Alongside Clear Boundaries

Conscious parenting includes boundaries. You can recognise that your child feels angry while holding a clear limit around hitting or hurtful behaviour.

We reflect on the difference between trying to silence an emotion and supporting a child through it. This approach invites parents to look beneath challenging behaviour with curiosity while continuing to offer steady leadership.

Mindfulness for Parents and Understanding Parenting Triggers

Our childhood experiences can influence how we respond under pressure. Even when we promise ourselves we will parent differently, familiar reactions can appear when we are tired or overwhelmed.

We talk openly about recognising generational parenting patterns without becoming stuck in blame or guilt. Awareness gives us somewhere to begin. From there, we can practise responding in ways that reflect our values.

Meditation, Pausing and Returning to Yourself

My guests share how meditation supports their experience of presence and managing everyday stress. We also explore small pauses that help parents notice tension before reacting.

These practices are part of an ongoing process. Family life will still bring conflict, noise and difficult days. The invitation is to keep returning to yourself and your children with greater awareness.

Children’s Books, Emotional Awareness and Repair

We also explore how storytelling can open conversations about feelings. The children’s book discussed in this episode uses the image of a pink light to explore inner comfort and emotional awareness.

Making Space for Imperfect Parenting

I share reflections on my own parenting journey, including strong emotions, changing old patterns and the importance of repair after disconnection.

Listen to this conscious parenting podcast episode for an honest conversation about mindful parenting, emotional connection and learning alongside your children. You can begin with one pause, one conversation and one moment of connection today.

 

“It’s being calm, modelling, supporting them to understand that this is how you can be as an adult.” — Donna Moala
The information shared in this podcast is for general education and does not replace individual medical or mental health advice. Please speak with your GP or a qualified health professional about concerns relating to your wellbeing or your child’s health, development or emotional needs.
Donna Moala Conscious Parenting and Sleep Coach
What if raising emotionally resilient children begins with transforming ourselves first? In this episode of Parenting Collective Podcast, Conscious Parenting coach Donna Moala explores the power of mindfulness, emotional awareness, and conscious parenting with special guests Mayra Clay, author of The Boy and the Pink Light, and Marc Krusin. Mayra and Marc are meditation teachers with The Bright Path Ishayas and independent publishers through BookPath, where they share books and tools designed to support emotional wellbeing, self-awareness, and conscious living. Together, Donna, Mayra, and Marc discuss how conscious parenting can help parents: ✨ Understand their child’s emotions instead of simply reacting to behaviour ✨ Build stronger emotional connections with their children ✨ Regulate their own nervous system during challenging parenting moments ✨ Break generational patterns and create healthier family relationships ✨ Support children in developing mindfulness, self-awareness, and emotional resilience Parenting is not about being perfect. It’s about becoming more present, aware, and connected, learning how our own emotions, beliefs, and reactions influence the way we show up for our children. Through meditation, mindfulness, and conscious awareness, parents can create a calmer home environment and help children feel safe, understood, and emotionally supported. If you’re a parent wanting to raise confident, emotionally healthy children while growing alongside them, this conversation is for you.

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Hello and welcome to this week’s episode. Super excited. So on this episode we are talking about parenting with presence. Staying connected to our
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children, helping them navigate big emotions and the powerful role that we as parents play in modeling our emotional regulation which is not always
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easy. So staying calm and conscious again not always easy in the everyday not always easy but it’s a muscle we
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need to build. So today I’m joined by the lovely and Mark all the way from London. They are the beautiful hearts behind book path and they have this
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amazing book called the boy and the pink light and Marra and Mark are and have been meditation teachers for over 20
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years. They are parents to two boys and their creators who are really passionate about helping both children and adults live with more presence, emotional
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awareness and connection. So through their children’s books um and Mark has got some adults books um their work with the bright path they support families to
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slow down understand their inner world and bring more mindfulness into everyday life. So I really hope you enjoy this uh
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conversation as much as we did and um their books look amazing. So I’d love to hear your feedback, what your thoughts
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are purchasing the books and we’ll speak to you next week. Bye.
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Hellora and Mark and welcome to the parenting collective podcast. Hello. Hello Donna. How are you today?
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All the way from England. Is that where you are now? Yes. In London. Yes. London.
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Is it probably getting warmer there, isn’t it? When it gets cooler here.
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Yes. Yeah. Last theoretically. Theoretically. Yeah.
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Yeah. I know. I we I lived in London for um for two years back in the day. So, I certainly remember that it wasn’t often
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that warm and when it was in summer, people would take their shirts off and sunbake wherever they could because I get some vitamin D and then it would rain. So, yeah, I get it.
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They’re still doing that.
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Well, thanks for joining us today. So, I’d love to start with your story. So um can you share a little bit about what you both do and what inspired your
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passion around helping children develop emotional well-being and also I mean this is a big question parents as well.
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So but really you know the start of your story like where you sort of came to do this as a passion and a life and a work
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everything. Well, first we we started to meditate and then teach meditation I think more than nearly 25 years ago.
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And from that and then having two boys and from that and and for me also personally working in the school as a
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teaching assistant for a few years in my son’s school, primary school brought me also to write this book at the boy and the pig light. So
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and then to Mark also you came with more conscious books for adults. Yes.
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Yeah. Yeah. More and I mean I I think like for me the thing Yeah. As Mario said, we started meditating a long time ago and I think gradually as one meditates,
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one just becomes more present, more aware, continually more aware of more stuff, right? And on subtler and subtler levels and
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and so the more the more you see, the more you also see ways to to help or to
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interact with the world in a different way. And that’s brought us to obviously teaching meditation but also writing
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books to inspire others to in the case of like the children’s books to sort of help them
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with their emotional awareness and and also parents to understand their children more at least to open that discussion
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and with the adults books that we’re writing it’s more about inspiring adults to see that there’s another way to live and give just simple practical tools to I simple.
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You just think it’s so easy. But the thing is, people live a whole life of and again this is no judgment because if it’s not presented to you or you’re not
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interested in it, you’re not going to look into it. But it all just goes hand in hand. Meditation, mindfulness, consciously being and for me, you know,
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I wasn’t I thought I was a conscious person. I meditated. I do all did all of those things. But you can have all the modalities in the world. But when life
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gets challenging or particularly with parenting and your kiddos aren’t just doing what they told they’re told to do
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and traditional parenting is just not working and you can’t Google anything to help with your kids, then it really comes back on the reflecting of ourselves. That conscious awareness, the
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conscious parenting, the conscious living and that’s meditation that that’s mindfulness. But it’s not again blaming a parent for the way their child’s
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reacting, but like you said, it’s sounding like the books are to understand yourself a bit when your parent when your children might be having a bit of trouble like listening to them rather than just telling them.
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Yes. Yeah. Yeah. It’s also to to be like you say going in worse and also to
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be the best self you can be. We still making mistakes and learning and and everything.
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But it’s just to be the best of yourself and and and and when you try and you do what your
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best to do that reflects in in your life. Yeah. You can’t go backwards is what I say.
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You can’t push toothpaste face back into the tooth paste holder. Meaning you go conscious awareness or of you know the
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thing is that’s how I live my life. I live my life as the best version I can.
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I fail many often, not as many as at times as I used to as a parent, but it definitely happens. Um, I move through
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the failing quicker and I also know that we’re human living a human experience and humanness happens and we’re going to
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lose our ever loving mind sometimes, but we can meditate and be conscious a bit quicker. And then when these things happen in parenting, I talk about
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rupture and repair, which um we heard from from Dr. Vanessa La Point. She’s an amazing um parent expert too. But um know that rupture is going to happen.
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Know there’s going to be anger at times.
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Know there’s all these emotions, but it’s like understanding within as parents to model and um for the children, you know, that the parents
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just don’t lose their minds and not know what to do with that.
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Exactly. And also for for me, for me personal, it’s been a very interesting journey because I grew up with a very with alcoholic dad and a workaholic mom.
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So what you’re bringing that stuff with you, but what do you want to change in that? What do you want to feel to do
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better and know bringing and and apply the same thing that you grow up? So those that’s that’s what we’re trying to do. Um I love it.
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And to Yeah. to to tell to check with with parents and and everyone out there that it it doesn’t have to be the same story.
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It doesn’t and what I found working with so many families and myself is that what I didn’t want to do is um is what I
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ended up doing when things got stressful. So, you’ve got your blueprint, your generational trauma patterns, whatever you want to call it, and we don’t want to do that. But then
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when things get stressful and we’re all um got not a square to spare, what comes out? The shitty generational patterns.
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And it doesn’t mean again we’re shaming or blaming our parents. Sometimes we can definitely um but you know it’s it’s being aware of like oh that’s where it
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comes from. I don’t want to do that. How can I regulate myself through meditation, mindfulness, whatever that might be? obviously what the things that you’ve been doing for a long time to
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then be able to go back repair model tell them look we don’t want to be like that let’s change it but it takes a lot
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of work too doesn’t it yes yeah it’s like a game no it’s like finding never ending there’s no end destination
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except for the last breath on earth is what I say to people dramatic but it’s not like oh I’ve got to be this best person I’ve got to do whatever it’s like
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up and down roller coaster you know you when you’re a parent That’s the hardest thing I think when you’re not a parent.
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You don’t I’m not saying I shouldn’t say this because I am a parent, but it that it definitely puts that mirror up in front of you and pushes you where you’ve
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never been pushed before because when you before you have children, you can do whatever you like. And if you don’t like someone and they they tell you they don’t like you about something, you just
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go whatever and you have nothing to do with them. But then, you know, when our children do something that triggers us or not them, but we get triggered or
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whatever, it’s not their fault. Uh it makes us try if we can try and be the best version of ourselves to to figure this
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out to be able to respond for our children, you know, being more conscious. Yes. And aware um how old are your kiddos?
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Is nearly 17 and Ailio 13 and a half.
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Oh, you’re in it, too. You’re in it. We talk about all the time. I have three girls, so they’re 21, 18, and 15. I feel like Yeah, I know. Everyone says that.
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My poor husband’s probably there. one that needs to be given a medal. But this is why I do what I do because it didn’t
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work. Traditional just having a nice family and providing and being nice people wasn’t enough. And so nothing was
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out there that was going to help us with what was happening with our children and parenting cuz once they get to for us and a lot of people hormones change, you
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know, school ch all of things life happens. The old style of traditional parenting doesn’t work. for hell. Maybe
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it does for some people, but it just doesn’t. And then then you start having conflict and Yeah. So, you can do all the meditation in the world and if
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there’s still conflict, you know, we’ve got to get into those triggers. Um, so yes. So, I’m sure they’re very good boys.
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And you don’t have to worry about anything at all. Um, but they’ve got parents that can um, you know, teach them how to regulate. Um, so a little
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bit about that too then. So obviously you’re you’re in it. Your parents you’re nodding your head a lot cuz you know what I’m talking about cuz we’re going
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through it. Um and obviously having these tools. So many parents today um that I’m working with and obviously you
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speak to as well are raising children in such a face fast-paced world. We know that um and it’s over it’s overwhelming.
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It’s overwhelming for the children. It’s overwhelming for the parents. The parents don’t have um the support needed to help them with the overwhelm. And it
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can be as simple as learning how to meditate, learning how to do sematics, learning how to go out and ground yourself on bare feet in the grass. You
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know, all of these small things I talk about to my clients that people don’t even think. They stay in the stressful house trying to get everyone to do
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everything and it’s not working. Then they go to work, probably not as stressed, and then come back to the stress, you know, like it’s just constant. So it’s like talking to guys
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like talking to you know people like yourself and me spreading that word of like there are circuit breakers microcircuit breakers we can do for our
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parental nervous system for our children you know like all of this is really normal. We can’t just be all zen and meditate and be relaxed all the time.
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That’s not reality either. But it’s like understanding this a bit more, you know, like having books like yourself that people can find that can they can read
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to their children cuz that’s a beautiful thing, you know, to be able to not just model it, but to be able to read stories about it cuz that’s a beautiful thing
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that we’re people have not got enough time to do but they need to with their reading and stuff like that. Um, so then
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in regards to that, and obviously we’re talking about this quite a lot, why do you believe the mindfulness and sort of
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the emotional awareness, the consciousness that we’re talking about is such an important skill that
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we should be trying to support parents to understand to then be able to support their children.
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So I I would say that really uh presence of mind is really the foundation for everything.
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Mhm. With without that, there’s not really much we can do. We can’t really be very useful to the planet because we’re not really aware of what’s going on in front of us aware. We’re we’re in
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here and we’re kind of perceiving stuff through a whole bunch of mental structures and filters that we’ve
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created through our life experience or whatever. So, we’re not seeing the reality.
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But but but if we’re present, we’re we’re much more aware of of what’s happen what’s actually happening in the moment. not what we’ve kind of judged as
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as as happening but but what’s actually happening and so therefore how we can react or or
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you know often the reaction will just kind of come through us right it’ll be self-evident what needs to be done and that may be you know just listening it
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may be a hug it may be a stern word it may even be raising our voices it could be it could be anything there’s no
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formula but if we’re present we’re much more likely to to know what that what you know the best the best action
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that we can take in that moment is yeah that’s great and I I think it’s the same thing that I say to everyone about and again working with so many parents
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all the time with babies you know that’s a lot of pressure all the time I actually say to them be in the now be in the present like what’s happening this
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nap don’t think about what’s happening tomorrow and it’s not going to work or whatever it’s like being present now like stopping being aware and the thing
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is it takes a bit of practice to become present, doesn’t it? It’s not just like we’re saying, “Hey, be present. Stay in the now.” And they’re like, “Oh, that’s
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going to come easy.” You don’t out of the 10 times you try, 10 times you don’t do it, you might get it once. But it’s like the more you practice it like a
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muscle, like I say, building your muscles. Then you can pause and you go, “Okay, someone’s really disregulated here. What’s going on?” Rather than,
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“Oh, I’ve got to do this. I’ve got to go to the next thing.” You know, like it’s just coming back to now.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. And also for for for me also um meditating do my meditation is is releasing the stress.
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So you are releasing constantly that stress that life causes um that stress whatever
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you are more light to go home and be less stressful because you are carrying that suitcase that is less heavy. Yeah.
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So that’s so that’s why it’s very important also to to to start with ourselves because we are lighter and and
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I hope we can be a bit bit lighter and and yeah be more present.
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Yeah. President and talking about when we’re talking about this is the nervous system regulation. You know we just go back to the biological science stuff.
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Our amydalas are are on fire. You know I talk about amydala all the time. Some people never heard of it but it’s the fightlight response. You guys would
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absolutely know about it. Um, but it’s trying to calm the fire of the nervous system before you get into the fire. So,
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it’s not always just having an a a calm nervous system and having your tools in the moment. It’s like daily, isn’t it?
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Like little bit of practice to to to to for your nervous system. Yes.
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Um, yes. Well, that is very uh very very true. So, a little bit about the book. I want to hear a little bit more about the book. So, um tell me about Yeah. the
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concept and the idea and the message to for the children and for parents and what your families might take away from
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it what the concept was when you thought about doing it.
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Yeah. The boy in the pink light is the the the pink light is a anient ancient technique but we know about it because of our meditation and it’s a very very
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simple technique and um together with with our meditation that we do the ping knife helped me to heal also relationship with my dad. So
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when I was working in the nursery, I noticed that some children’s unfortunately they don’t have the same
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privilege of having present parents or more caring parents. I was feeling like oh my goodness, I I need to do something. I would like to do something about it.
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And as much as you are present and caring in the nursery, my work used to finish in that when they went back to to
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home. So the idea came to with this from that experience in nursery but at the same time it is um not just for children
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mainly is for parents how parents can can um help the like Mar mentioned before to parents to to be aware of the
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children’s when they are feeling sad or angry not just for me I probably saying okay don’t don’t cry don’t you don’t
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feel like that so I wanted to change um something in there um that the parents
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can be more aware of of their feelings or they listen more and also for them
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for themselves to go inwards um and see okay I’m feeling a stress also um why I’m feeling a stress
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so it’s a combination of this pink light and the boy discovering that whatever he’s feeling just go back to his heart
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because this is a very safe place Yes, because obviously well for me it’s very important to feel safe here and secure
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here and that moment I feel like that everything may be open so maybe go with the flow. Um so yeah that was the main the main reason.
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It’s beautiful. Yeah beautiful.
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Yeah it’s beautiful and um I haven’t read it but I will um but I I’m very interested to to find out about it but
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that is about um again sounds so cliche but it’s no matter what chaos might be going on around you because again this
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is lived experience. I still have my beautiful chaos but I’m okay. not okay all the time, but it’s that pink light
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within. It’s that safess here. And that’s taken 50 years for me to get to that really with all the work that I’ve done on myself and all the different
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modalities to finally get to a place of like I’m going to be it’s okay, you know, is is a beautiful place to be. And I think if parents can hear that anyone
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can get there, they really can. No matter what’s going on in their life, um that it takes work. But if you can get that yourself within parents and then be
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able to support your children to understand that their worlds are going to be a lot less heavier.
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Exactly. And what a beautiful way to have a conversation as as a mom or dad or your son, your daughter, and they see
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that this is something real and it’s okay to talk about feelings.
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talk about stuff because sometimes maybe the kissing these adults like
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my goodness the best thing but they see us also vulnerable vulnerable vulnerable that’s that’s the best thing I never saw
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my parents like that and and what if to to to allow them to feel like that too yeah and and they’re they’re going
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there’s a lot of research that’s been done on this and you would know this but um and this is what we talk about the conscious parenting movement or it’s
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been around, you know, like um I studied with Dr. Shafali who is the founder of it. Not that it’s never been around before, but it’s all of this combined.
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It’s not permissive, like I say, or gentle or no boundaries or no whatever.
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It’s not that. It’s being calm modeling supporting them to understand that this is how you can be as an adult. Like, you
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know, it sounds pretty simple, doesn’t it? But when we can really connect that to parents to understand it works, then
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our kids are relaxed that they can have a big tanty and um you’re not going to lose your mind. Like I again have a lived experience of this of a child that
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was really compliant. We thought, “Wow, we’re the best parents ever.” Then one that was gorgeous but was fiery and then
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we wanted to fix that fiery behavior and that destroyed her, right? We didn’t mean to do that. But then when we got to parent uh teenage years, she was not
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connected to us. She was fiery. And that’s our fault. And again, it’s not blame, shame, or guilt, but there is guilt in there. But a lived experience
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of changing the way that we live like this. And my husband’s not quite in the same book as me, but he’s he’s done the
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changing. It works. You know, we’ve got a very strong willed, beautiful, amazing 18-year-old who um can have a tantrum.
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not tantrum, but you know, can show her, express her, she’s not frightened of us.
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U we’re not trying to shut her down, but when she was younger, we tried to shut it down cuz we’re like, that’s loud.
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Like that’s bad behavior, but really it was age appropriate loudness. And rather than going, oh, you know, it’s okay that you hit. We’re not talking about that.
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We’re like, you know, we’re educating them like to know they can’t regulate, so we’ve got to learn how to regulate.
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So it and the thing is as you guys are sitting there and doing all that you’re doing you know that this kind of living works works for not only human adult
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adults humans adults parents but uh inevitably helps our children you know
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and that’s obviously why where your passions from is so deeply. Have you got lots of book concepts up your sleeves
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still more books to come out or Yes. Yeah. Hopefully. Yeah. Then another one coming. Well, you already have one
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for adults, let’s say. But yeah. So, Mark, what are the ones? What are the books that um that you’re
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targeting? Parents or just adult adults or Yeah, mainly adults. Um we have another children’s book which is about um it’s
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really the main theme is experiencing things from for yourself. Mhm.
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I rather than taking on concepts and beliefs from other people, it’s about experiencing it for yourself.
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Yeah.
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So that’s that’ll be coming out I think in a few months time. And then other adult books are really one is really a
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description of what a present life can be. Mhm.
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What it means, how it changes stage by stage. Love it.
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As an inspiration more than anything else. And then there are a few exercises included in that as well just to help people start exploring.
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I love that. Love it. Love it. I then for my uh cupboards of books that I just love because it and the good old style
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books I know we can listen to them and stuff like that but just the highlighting and the light bulbs and the you know like it is like I said it’s
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it’s not an end destination. And it’s like a continual growing, learning, meeting people and you know where the way that you’re talking and what you’re
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sharing is is through lived experience and you know this big heart and understanding that this is what life’s
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about. We only get one possibly. I don’t know. Maybe that maybe we do get others. Don’t know about that. But you know you know somewhere.
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Yeah. Yeah. Um but like you were saying um like is is just trying to be the best version of yourself. That’s it. No one
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else. No nothing. Just being your best version and then everything when things play out you know that you’ve done the right thing and um I can keep going to
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that nervous system regulation stuff. Um so in regards to your books and people hearing you and obviously I’ll put
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everything in the show notes but um where can people purchase your books and find out more about you and all the things that you do?
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Yes. Thank you. Um well the book The Boy in the Pink Line can be found on on my website maid um.com.
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Yep.
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And or on is is there on Amazon. Um yes. Oh well here is um it’s an English
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um water st but but yeah um you can yeah it’ll be on the show notes anyway. You can get the books which is great. So
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they can find you and they’re like oh this is really interesting. um and they can find the books. Um h yeah, so it’s been fantastic chatting to you guys
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today. Really nice to meet you and um I will definitely be purchasing the books.
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Might even talk about it on my Instagram with the post with podcast. But um yeah, really lovely meeting you and all that you are doing.
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Thank you Donna. It’s lovely meeting you. Thank you for for the space.
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Yeah, totally fantastic. Have a lovely day. Great to talk to you. You too. Thank you.
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Right. So, if you enjoyed this episode, be sure to leave me a rating and review.
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I love reading all of your messages, so shoot me a DM over on Instagram. It is parentingcollective.au.
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I also offer a free 15-minute no obligation phone chat. If you’d like to book one, head over to my website, www.paringcollective.com.au, [music]
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and request one there. So, try to remember to be kind to yourself, and always know you’re doing the best you can every day, no matter what your day is looking like. Until next time, much love.
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